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CT-114 Tutor

Matty B.

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Does anyone know/can guess how much longer the Snowbirds will use the CT-114? Are there any replacements on the horizon, or will they use the Tutor for several more years?
 
Google - http://www.google.ca/

Search terms - "snowbirds tutor replacement"

First hit - Canadian Forces  Snowbird Aircraft  Replacement Project  (SARP)
http://www.sfu.ca/casr/101-sarp.htm

Google can be your friend.
 
Thanks... that's a great site. I'll search this site and "google" more often...
 
Here is a new development on a replacement option for the Tutor.  Two companies have put together a proposal for 18 Swiss Hawks.

http://www.arinc.com/news/2006/11-07b-06.html

George
 
Great! Now get the actual safety items done - the ejection seat and engine.
 
Why are we bothering?

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Because Canadians love them and no politician is willing to spend the political capital to disband them. It would be career suicide.
I bet you Steven Guilbault would axe them in a heartbeat if he were MND instead of architect of the Justin Transition…unless someone came up with an electric Tutor… 😉
 
C17
C130J
Chinook

those were all UOR

You can add M777, Leo2 as UORs

And it would be a stretch to say the Snowbird replacement needs an UOR.


To be totally fair . There are a couple the Navistar CP truck and the Mack trucks and the Textron TAPV. They purchased though the system.

Procurements that did get something but were reset or had to be restarted and years late.
Handguns
FWSAR
CH148, CH149
Even the ranger rifle
Etc

Should I even add the F-35?
 
They were not UOR. All were done per the normal procurement process. Which works when you don't short circuit it, and when you buy off the shelf.

It's incessant Canadianization, research heavy acquisitions, ill defined requirements, bleeding edge products, first nation to buy... All those stupid things that slow acquisition and drive increased costs
 
those were all UOR
If you mean the CH-147D's bought from the US Army and transferred intra-theatre from Bagram to Kandahar, yes.

CH-147F most definitely not. As dapaterson said, those followed the existing procurement policies of the day. The OAG may have had issues with some of the elements of how they were accomplished, but they were all pursuant to the Defence Services Program: ID, Options Analysis, Definition, Implementation and Close Out. Even CH-147D (Interim Medium Lift Capability - IMLC) reviewed a number of options to provide the required capability consistent with Government's implementation of the recommendations in the Manley Report.
 
If you mean the CH-147D's bought from the US Army and transferred intra-theatre from Bagram to Kandahar, yes.

CH-147F most definitely not. As dapaterson said, those followed the existing procurement policies of the day. The OAG may have had issues with some of the elements of how they were accomplished, but they were all pursuant to the Defence Services Program: ID, Options Analysis, Definition, Implementation and Close Out. Even CH-147D (Interim Medium Lift Capability - IMLC) reviewed a number of options to provide the required capability consistent with Government's implementation of the recommendations in the Manley Report.
Oh, what would you know…. :cool:
 
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