Car Explosion/Accident at Rainbow Bridge?

[lenaitch]

Initial reports of the vehicle originating in Canada may have been wishful thinking to avoid labeling this as homegrown terrorism.

And, it could be as simple as an accident or stupidity.

It is a standard US knee-jerk response. The N/E blackout of 2003, 9/11 highjackers, and probably the original sin, all started from here.

I don't know the area well enough but if it came from Canada and was sent to secondary from primary, it got up quite a head of steam in a short distance.

When you aren't even sure how many people were in the car, that sort of makes 'the condition of the remains' as a huge understatement.

 

[Haggis]

It is a standard US knee-jerk response. The N/E blackout of 2003, 9/11 highjackers, and probably the original sin, all started from here.

Let's build a northern border wall. We'll make it out of snow and it can be a seasonal make-work project.

I don't know the area well enough but if it came from Canada and was sent to secondary from primary, it got up quite a head of steam in a short distance.

That was the initial report. Came from Canada and was referred. Did a hard u turn and charged the port. In fact, it's now confirmed - so far - the vehicle originated in the US and was seen speeding away from a nearby casino on the American side.

 

[KevinB]

It is a standard US knee-jerk response. The N/E blackout of 2003, 9/11 highjackers, and probably the original sin, all started from here.

Well we will be right one of these days, broken clock and all.



Pretty shitty start to Thanksgiving down here.

 

[brihard]

From the video of the car in mid air - it probably could have safely flown over someone standing upright - no way it got that speed within the border checkpoint area.

 

[KevinB]

Not much new, but confirms it was coming from our (American) side

Fiery crash kills 2 at Niagara Falls' Rainbow border bridge. Officials say no sign of terrorism

New York Gov. Kathy Hochul said there was “no indication of a terrorist attack” in the vehicle crash and explosion on Rainbow Bridge in Niagara Falls.

apnews.com

 

[Haggis]

Pretty shitty start to Thanksgiving down here.

My first thought when the incident broke was this was an attack related to Thanksgiving with the intent of messing with US transportation infrastructure on the cusp of the busiest travel block of the year.

 

[KevinB]

My first thought when the incident broke was this was an attack related to Thanksgiving with the intent of messing with US transportation infrastructure on the cusp of the busiest travel block of the year.

You and I both.

Generally cars just don’t explode, so I’m not buying the whole ‘no terrorist link’ presser from the NY Governor.

 

[RangerRay]

You and I both.

Generally cars just don’t explode, so I’m not buying the whole ‘no terrorist link’ presser from the NY Governor.

Maybe if it was a Ford Pinto…

 

[Haggis]

You and I both.

Generally cars just don’t explode, so I’m not buying the whole ‘no terrorist link’ presser from the NY Governor.

A couple of CBP and US Mil buddies I've spoken to don't trust her one iota.

 

[KevinB]

Maybe if it was a Ford Pinto…

AMC Gremlin says hold me beer

 

[Quirky]

You and I both.

Generally cars just don’t explode, so I’m not buying the whole ‘no terrorist link’ presser from the NY Governor.

They are sometimes filled with a flammable liquid.

 

[KevinB]

They are sometimes filled with a flammable liquid.

I’ve shot a lot of cars over the years. The only ones that have exploded have had explosive packages in them.

Even a full belt of API-T will just make a glorious car fire - and not go high order.

When gas tanks do explode they aren’t really that impressive as the fuel content in them to get the proper fuel/ air mix isn’t that much - and usually the tank just burns if near a flame when ruptured. — unless it’s a TV show or movie.

 

[lenaitch]

Forensics will tell but my money is on a couple of turkeys who stole a car and were trying to make a break for it.

 

[RangerRay]

This article has the best video so far, imbedded in an attached tweet. It doesn’t even look like it made it to primary, and it was hauling ass. A pillar blocks the view of whatever the car launched off of, but that’s some Dukes of Hazzard shit right there.

‘It felt like an earthquake’: 2 dead as Rainbow Bridge blast causes chaos but terrorism fears subside

A vehicle burst into flames on the U.S. side, prompting the rapid closure of four land crossings. New York governor said it doesn’t appear to be terrorism.

www.thestar.com

 

[Navy_Pete]

I’ve shot a lot of cars over the years. The only ones that have exploded have had explosive packages in them.

Even a full belt of API-T will just make a glorious car fire - and not go high order.

When gas tanks do explode they aren’t really that impressive as the fuel content in them to get the proper fuel/ air mix isn’t that much - and usually the tank just burns if near a flame when ruptured. — unless it’s a TV show or movie.

Even something like a nitrous tank won't go up too much.

Could have been something weird like the fuel tank rupturing and spraying atomized fuel at that kind of high impact speed that ignited; but that would have a sub sonic pressure wave which would be a pretty distinctive sound compared to an explosion. Deflagrations are pretty weird, and have a sort of a whump sound but still have enough pressure to do some pretty good damage. Would have to be a pretty weird series of events though so some kind of explosion seems more likely.

 

[GK .Dundas]

Forensics will tell but my money is on a couple of turkeys who stole a car and were trying to make a break for it.

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What a brilliant idea, we've stolen a car . The local cops will be on us in minutes . Hey I've got a brilliant idea let's try and jump an international border .
What could possibly go wrong?
To quote a corrections officer I used to know.
"We don't as a general rule of thumb get much in the way of Rocket Scientist's in here ."

 

[Bruce Monkhouse]

Husband and wife.

Old fashioned, but spectacular, murder-suicide?

 

[Maxman1]

Even something like a nitrous tank won't go up too much.

Could have been something weird like the fuel tank rupturing and spraying atomized fuel at that kind of high impact speed that ignited; but that would have a sub sonic pressure wave which would be a pretty distinctive sound compared to an explosion. Deflagrations are pretty weird, and have a sort of a whump sound but still have enough pressure to do some pretty good damage. Would have to be a pretty weird series of events though so some kind of explosion seems more likely.

Or maybe layman witnesses and news reporters simply called it an explosion without knowing the difference.

 

[Brad Sallows]

What most people know about grenade, bomb, etc explosions comes from Hollywood, where explosions are frequently gasoline-augmented. "Wow, that looks like a bomb explosion."

 

[Navy_Pete]

Or maybe layman witnesses and news reporters simply called it an explosion without knowing the difference.

I've seen both closer then I'd like too; both have pretty big pucker factor, and it's a bit of an academic arguement anyway.