Only in Quebec, they pay you to be lazy

[Fishbone Jones]

Chop,
I fear spouting rhetoric like that, if you ever ran into a real racist, you‘d be in a world of hurt. Maybe I should have put the "smiley face" behind it like I intended, to show I was being humourous. Most people here can read into things like that. If I offended your delicate sensibilities, I apologize. However, if as already stated, you like the idea of supporting, and not all are I agree, deadbeats, then you feel free. I already support enough through my 40% taxes. Charity starts at home my friend. I also remember being in La Belle Provence and being spit on, overcharged, ripped off, attacked verbally and physically because I couldn‘t parle the lingo. Don‘t talk to me about being racist. I‘ve been all over the world helping different nationalities who were thankful for our presence, but the worst I was ever treated was in my own country while in Quebec.

 

[Lajeunesse]

Well in my opinion for those ppl who need our tax money to help themselfs live, find a job, recover from accidents ect..then I enjoy helping them. For those ppl that come over here to sit on thier asses and breed like bacteria....Only the strong survive.

 

[Lajeunesse]

Originally posted by Chop:
[qb] Let them all eat poutine is not what I consider proper it is words like that I hear all the time and it is not meant in a positive manner, I am French Canadian from Quebec and I found it racist and uncalled for, yes I might be sensitive but it is drivel like that I hear all the time and it has to stop. â Å“Theyâ ? meaning the French or Quebecers.

You never here "they" as in Alberta or Ontario. [/qb]

Agreed I‘m also French Canadian and proud to be so, I also found it racist and uncalled for.

Lets leave immature pathetic little remarks like this kept to our selves, just to ignore future disputes about the above. :rage:

 

[meni0n]

You guys take offense too easily.

 

[Lajeunesse]

Well unlike some ppl possibly, you I take offense to ppl bashing my heritage, its just like calling a japanese person a gook or an italian person a kike ect....So refering to "us Quebecers" as poutine eating whatevers....I‘m sorry my frined but yes i‘m going to take offence its a matter of respect, principal, and morel. If you had any you‘d see my point as well.

 

[meni0n]

how‘s calling quebecers as poutine eaters bash your heritage?

 

[Fishbone Jones]

I didn‘t call anyone "poutine eaters". I said "Let them eat poutine" in what I thought was a humourous paraphrase of Marie Antionette "Let them eat cake". Maybe not the most well thought out remark obviously. Something must have gotten lost in the translation. As I‘ve already apologized to your delicate sensibilities and you‘ve decided to deflect the critism of the Quebec government into a racist issue, I don‘t know what else to say. We all agree there is a place for government assitance, in the case of the infirm, destitute and some that just need a hand to get going again. Guess you don‘t want to debate why Canadian taxpayers should be responsible for able bodied persons, that are too lazy to work, getting our tax dollars. I‘m sure I‘m not the first "Anglais merde" to be treated as I was in Quebec, but I don‘t call everyone in Quebec racist. We‘re all human and we all make mistakes. Your point has been noted, the apology made. Accept it and move on, or remain small minded and piddly, with a chip on your shoulder. It‘s what keep the lawyers in business.

 

[Tyler]

I didn‘t call anyone "poutine eaters". I said "Let them eat poutine" in what I thought was a humourous paraphrase of Marie Antionette "Let them eat cake".

And humourous it was, Recceguy.

I got the joke the second I read it, obviously others didn‘t and were far too quick to take offence.

Agreed I‘m also French Canadian and proud to be so, I also found it racist and uncalled for.

A genuine Quebecer in "Wellity-ville", you‘re kidding, right? (smiley inserted to avoid offending anyone) I think you stated before that you were still a civilian. If you are, then I suggest that you remove your regimental badge avatar until you are qualified.

its just like calling a japanese person a gook or an italian person a kike ect....

Get your racial slurs right :

Gook = Racial slur for a Korean or Vietnamese person.

Reference:Cao and Novas, the authors of Everything You Need to Know About Asian-American History, explain the term's origins as follows: "Gook, the American racial epithet for all Asian Americans, is actually the Korean word for "country." Koreans call the United States of America Mee Hap Joon Gook, which they shorten to the more familiar Mee Gook. Similarly, Koreans have shortened Dae Han Min Gook or the People's Republic of Korea to Han Gook. During the Korean War, American soldiers gave the word gook a derogatory slant and used it to refer to Koreans. The term gook went through yet one more transformation when American servicemen in Vietnam used it to refer to the Vietnamese, particularly the Vietcong."

Source:here.

Kike = Racial slur for a Jewish person.

Source:here.

The common racial slur used for Italians is "Wop". This word originated from the Italian word ‘guappo‘, meaning ‘thug‘ in English.

Source:here.

The common racial slurs used for the Japanese are "Nip" or "Jap". This seems to be a shortening of the words "Nippon" and "Japan". Both of these words are used by the Japanese to name their country. "Nihon" is also another word for "Japan".

Anyway, I didn‘t mean to hi-jack the thread like that. It‘s 3:00 AM and I‘m bored. If anyone here thinks that what I wrote above is racist in any way, I suggest you get a life.

Back on topic:

My sentiments echo what Recceguy said before people got their panties in a knot about his "racist" post. If Quebec wants to hand out cash, they can do it at whatever rate they feel like, so long as it doesn‘t raise federal taxes.

As for welfare recipients in general (aside from the disabled); there will always be people in society that for whatever reason are born lazy and stupid or are raised that way. Some people just don‘t want to work or they make the wrong decisions or they just can‘t manage money properly. A friend of mine used to work at a general store near the welfare office in Welland, Ontario. He told me that on every first day of each month the welfare recipients would cash their checks and blow half of their money on lottery tickets. Go figure....

Tyler

 

[Thompson_JM]

Tyler... That was Beautiful.. I was just about to type the exact same thing....

and I Couldnt have said it any better..

nicely done.

 

[Pikache]

There is a series of novel by David Weber describing what happens when a socialist states gets full of just lazy citizens; people having a ‘right‘ to basic standard living provided by the government, so they become lazy and don‘t bother being educated and in the end, generations of that become burden to the govt and its potential collapse.

 

[Jungle]

Originally posted by RoyalHighlandFusilier:
[qb] There is a series of novel by David Weber describing what happens when a socialist states gets full of just lazy citizens; people having a ‘right‘ to basic standard living provided by the government, so they become lazy and don‘t bother being educated and in the end, generations of that become burden to the govt and its potential collapse. [/qb]

There are real-life examples of this; for example New Zealand about 20 years ago.
I am a Québec-born French-Canadian, and lived outside of Québec for a number of years. There are ***holes everywhere, and I have been called names when visiting Québec with an Ontario plate on my car. I have also been told to "speak CDN" in other parts of the Country. The point is: there are good and bad people everywhere. Recceguy, your remark was funny, don‘t worry about a few kids taking offence...
The poutine concept is now being exported as far as Asia, but we will keep the monopoly on cheese curds... this way, we will let the rest of the world finance our social assistance programs !!!

 

[Ex-Dragoon]

Real good series RHF...Weber is an excellent author IMO.

 

[Armymedic]

Holy cow people!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Get a grip.

BTW "they" refers to any group of people who are not me or us....being from "the Gap" I use ‘they‘ to refer to Man, AB, Ont, and whoever else who isn‘t me or us. Pay more attention in English class.

Also...

I serve so that the gov‘t can pay people who don‘t/can‘t work, I serve so that you can call someone from Quebec a poutine eater (even when I am from Sask and love poutine too), I serve so that you can be offended at being called name other then the one your parents gave you. And I serve so that democratically elected people can decide what is best for our country...

I also serve so you can have the freedom to spout that useless crap for no reason but that you have the time and means to do so. All of you get off you horses before you all look like the parts where the poop comes out and smarten up.

 

[Paul F]

Originally posted by Chop:
[qb]

Originally posted by recceguy:
[qb] Personally, I could care less if Quebec wanted to give everyone in their province, let‘s say, $1000.00 a month. So long as it‘s collected by provincial tax from Quebecer‘s pockets. If they leave the federal system out of it and it doesn‘t cost me a cent, they can stay in their cloistered, socialist utopia until it all comes crashing down around their ears. Let them eat poutine! [/qb]

And then you wonder why they want to seperate, dumb drival like that. What you are is a racist. [/qb]

Since when are people who come from Quebec considered a race?

 

[Ex-Dragoon]

Racism is also attacks on ethnic group, religious group and if you want belief system. Racism and hate are the same thing in my books both are equally disgusting.

 

[Jarnhamar]

I always thought french candians were canadians. Not their own seperate race.

You guys are going to go VERY FAR in the CF getting offended as easily as you do. And because i know you won‘t catch on, im being sarcastic. Grow up and quit crying over spilt gravy or your in for a world of hurt when you actually get out into the world. That might sound harsh but that bit of wisdom might come in more handy than you might think

 

[Crisco]

By the way... speaking as an English Quebecor, which there are many, I take offence to people who arbitrarily decide to judge Quebec and its policies when they themselves don‘t know the culture within Quebec. As for the poutine, we are **** proud to eat our poutine avec extra sauce... By the way, there is a big difference between a Quebecois and French-Canadian, but don‘t take my word for it, demandez les francais! En tous cas, j‘y vas...

 

[LilMissChicky]

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[winchable]

Anyhow folks, looks like this beautiful topic has spiraled into the abyss that is: Silliness.

Recceguy explained his use of "let them eat poutine" as a reference to Marie Antoinette.
We could sit here and bitch until the lumberjacks get home but we‘ll never settle anything regarding the Quebecer-Canadian issue (I‘ll give you a hint, this isn‘t the first time this has come up) The debate is one that will continue to rage on in Canadian culture, without resolve. One thing is for certain, it won‘t take up bandwidth on this site.

**** if you want to discuss the finer points of regional differences in poutine by all means start a thread, but a certain degree of order is appreciated and topics are much prettier if they stay on topic.

If anyone has something to say regarding the original post, please do so.

Aside from that, sort out your differences regarding race in PM‘s and E-Mails if you must, or drop it. Speaking from experience, the best thing to do over the internet is just drop it.

 

[Infanteer]

I go away for three days and look what happens.
Some people‘s children....