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I wonder what percentage of Fortune 500 Companies were successful because of their roots in slavery? It would be interesting to see whether it was a few, some, or most. Good looking research Che.
I‘m not going to fight with Che anymore. He commented that he makes more than some people have been working 20 years or more. I suspect that this comment is inherently capitalistic, and think his socialist rantings are an (understandable), youthful, over-reaction to the inequities of life. Deep down, he is materialistic, like me
Furthermore, I have learned that latte is not his drink of choice, although he‘s a sucker for iced vanilla frappacinos
I must now disengage from what has become an ugly brawl. Che - as it turns out, I do not dislike you as much as I initially thought. Cheers.
I‘m not going to fight with Che anymore. He commented that he makes more than some people have been working 20 years or more. I suspect that this comment is inherently capitalistic, and think his socialist rantings are an (understandable), youthful, over-reaction to the inequities of life. Deep down, he is materialistic, like me
Furthermore, I have learned that latte is not his drink of choice, although he‘s a sucker for iced vanilla frappacinos
I must now disengage from what has become an ugly brawl. Che - as it turns out, I do not dislike you as much as I initially thought. Cheers.
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And I you Mustkrat, and I you.
hahaha. Here‘s one last laugh before I never also disengage from this absolutely, blood boiling, enraging forum.
How many socialists does it take to screw in a proletarian light bulb?
None. A proletarian lightbulb already contains the seeds of its own revolution.
hahaha. Here‘s one last laugh before I never also disengage from this absolutely, blood boiling, enraging forum.
How many socialists does it take to screw in a proletarian light bulb?
None. A proletarian lightbulb already contains the seeds of its own revolution.
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Jutes - Does your mother know that you use swear words?
Here‘s a site that you might find interesting:
www.playhousedisney.com
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Here‘s a site that you might find interesting:
www.playhousedisney.com
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Jutes before you step on it (again), here‘s a little free advice. Do some research before opening your yap.
Muskrat isn‘t American which if you‘d bothered to read either his profile of posts before shooting (blanks) from the hip, you‘d realise.
He sure as **** doesn‘t need me to defend him especially from some kid who has yet to put on the uniform yet and therefore should probably keep his mouth shut and mind open on this forum, but he‘s a friend and fellow soldier so I will anyway.
I will now sit back and eagerly await your oh so indigent and I hope witty reply.
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So, what are we supposed to call a person with socialist views, and a very capitalist lifestyle ???Originally posted by muskrat89:
[qb] I‘m not going to fight with Che anymore. He commented that he makes more than some people have been working 20 years or more. I suspect that this comment is inherently capitalistic, and think his socialist rantings are an (understandable), youthful, over-reaction to the inequities of life. Deep down, he is materialistic, like me
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Che, from what i read in the quote above, you are more right-wing than you want to admit to yourself. Socialism is BS; people in Canada want to have the state provide everything, and more, but then they also want tax reductions. Then they turn around and buy shyt made in China or Indonesia ‘cause it‘s cheaper, instead of buying CDN.
That‘s the part of churchill‘s quote socialists don‘t understand: when you mature, you realize you can‘t have it all...
Finally, I see nobody wants to be Jutes‘s friend... funny how I saw that coming
Now, I vote we cut the political crap; this is an ARMY site, for the discussion of MILITARY matters.
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I agree Jungle, this should end, lets keep the political issues for another forum.
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Then I suggest you move back to Ukraine, they are so much more powerful and better than here, according to you...
You have been told before by others, I will reiterate: You should do more READING and less posting. There are people here who have been around (not while under mom‘s skirt) and know a lot more than you, whether you like it or not. So far, very little interesting things came out of your yapper, so STFU and read.
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One last thing, Jungle, what was said in the quote from muskrat was taken out of context.
I said I make more then some people who have worked 20 years not because I was bragging, but because I was trying to make a point about paying taxes, and how I did not mind paying them if I could convince myself I was helping more people then myself. The point has been made and resolved since so I dropped it.
Socialism is not BS my friend, socialism is the idea that you care about the society around you more then you care about yourself everyonce in a while.
In that sense, everyone in the military is a socialist as we are all defending the greater good at our own expense.
Communism(As it is seen in the world today and in history), I will admit much to the dismay of the real "Che", is BS, it does not work; central planning, tight restrictions and COMPLETELY ignoring peoples personal needs. Socialism could work (maybe...just maybe) because it is the simple principle that someone could care about his(or her) fellow man more then they care about their own needs every once in a while, while still living a lifestyle that puts food on their table and provides for their family.
Don‘t forget the point I already made about everyone in the military being essentially a socialist...
Idealist? Yes. Realist? Probably not.
I said I make more then some people who have worked 20 years not because I was bragging, but because I was trying to make a point about paying taxes, and how I did not mind paying them if I could convince myself I was helping more people then myself. The point has been made and resolved since so I dropped it.
Socialism is not BS my friend, socialism is the idea that you care about the society around you more then you care about yourself everyonce in a while.
In that sense, everyone in the military is a socialist as we are all defending the greater good at our own expense.
Communism(As it is seen in the world today and in history), I will admit much to the dismay of the real "Che", is BS, it does not work; central planning, tight restrictions and COMPLETELY ignoring peoples personal needs. Socialism could work (maybe...just maybe) because it is the simple principle that someone could care about his(or her) fellow man more then they care about their own needs every once in a while, while still living a lifestyle that puts food on their table and provides for their family.
Don‘t forget the point I already made about everyone in the military being essentially a socialist...
Idealist? Yes. Realist? Probably not.
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You have it all wrong kid... people in the Military are not socialists. People work for promotions, to get more money and a decent pension. It is even more so in the Officer‘s world... it‘s dog-eat-dog !!!
Canada is not a socialist state; some people like to pretend it is... if it was, we would not be in the G8.
Historically, socialist states invariably turned to totalitarian dictatorships... I wonder if Che would like today‘s Cuba... "Power to the people" yeah right...
Now, you should also do more reading on this site...
Canada is not a socialist state; some people like to pretend it is... if it was, we would not be in the G8.
Historically, socialist states invariably turned to totalitarian dictatorships... I wonder if Che would like today‘s Cuba... "Power to the people" yeah right...
Now, you should also do more reading on this site...
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I‘ve done my share of reading in my life(I have the loans to prove it), and simply because you have cynical view of the military does not do anything to change my view‘s. It‘s called optimism, and I will hang on to it until I become a jaded old army man with kids a mortgage and ex-wife.
You are once again confusing socialism and communism.
Communism is a political system, while socialism is not. Socialism is the simple principle of caring more about the people around you then about yourself, in short, caring more about the state society then about personal gain.
Perhaps not EVERYone in the military is a socialist, but the ones who are in it because they see it as a way of helping people, are.
There‘s alot of things Che would not like today, such as his face being exploited to sell t-shirts and tourist spots. I look up Che because of his spirit and the tenacity with which he attacked injustice in the world, not because of his political views or what he did during the revolution.
You are once again confusing socialism and communism.
Communism is a political system, while socialism is not. Socialism is the simple principle of caring more about the people around you then about yourself, in short, caring more about the state society then about personal gain.
Perhaps not EVERYone in the military is a socialist, but the ones who are in it because they see it as a way of helping people, are.
There‘s alot of things Che would not like today, such as his face being exploited to sell t-shirts and tourist spots. I look up Che because of his spirit and the tenacity with which he attacked injustice in the world, not because of his political views or what he did during the revolution.
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And with all due respects, do not call me kid, or sport or slick.
If everyone sat around and did nothing but read the posts of the same 5 people on this site, everyone would have the same sad, pessimistic view on life and the military.
This is a forum for developing ideas, learning, I do my reading even if it is the same cynical posting from the same people.
I am an idealist, and I am a passionate one at that, above all else I am willing to listen to other peoples postings (no matter how unsupported they may be) rather then tell them to shut up and listen to what the old men have to say.
If everyone sat around and did nothing but read the posts of the same 5 people on this site, everyone would have the same sad, pessimistic view on life and the military.
This is a forum for developing ideas, learning, I do my reading even if it is the same cynical posting from the same people.
I am an idealist, and I am a passionate one at that, above all else I am willing to listen to other peoples postings (no matter how unsupported they may be) rather then tell them to shut up and listen to what the old men have to say.
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Yeah, Jungle...
Jutes - a prediction, if I may - even in today‘s PC, little yellow cards Army - someone will indeed tell you, in a very firm and direct manner, to "STFU".. at least once or twice in your career....it will probably occur with their face but an inch or two away from yours... I really hope it doesn‘t offend you to the point where you leave the Army
Oh - enemy soldiers might holler at you too....
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