CNR(E)/CSB (split from: Army Communication & Information Systems Specialists)

[upandatom]

THIS.

Doesn't matter if you are core, IST, CST or even LST. Everyone will need to know IP, everyone will need to understand basic subnetting, be able to configure a commercial router, CISCO or HP.

The army will soon realise that creating their own standards and protocols died back in the days of novell. The sooner we get on the IEEE standards, the sooner we can start buying kit of the shelf and militarizing it. That way we can avoid things like TCCCS showing up on the doorstep 20 years too late. Commercial solutions are out there, they're evolving quickly and they're cheaper than proprietary solutions.

Then training has to pick up quick and fast. IEEE Standards had already been taught in the CF via DATACOMMS, which to my understanding several Legacy Sig Ops and new ACISS IST had been on.

We all know how our acquisition of new equipment unless its a operational requirement takes forever, expect the same with training, if not longer. I agree with you, and as technology has increased kids in school are being taugh IP Subnetting etc. That explains why CCNA etc has started to go the way of the Dodo. That training is being offered in high school for free, kids nowadays have a much better grasp coming into the CAF with the skills we need, without having to be taught by the CAF.

That being said, we are not discussing 3-10 years from now, we are discussing now. 

 

[nobody]

If anyone has questions or concerns about CSB/CNRE I'd be interested in hearing them.
I worked on the project.
I obviously can't get into great detail, but I'm interested in hearing feedback.

 

[PuckChaser]

I think the biggest question is, is the CNR(E) capable of communicating with a 152/117G/MBITR/522? That was the rumour that floated around here, that to talk down to the section/platoon-level from a LAV, you'd need a legacy 5121 radio still installed.

 

[McG]

I can't say that I like a system that needs to be set by a laptop but does not have the laptop as a standard component of the vehicle.  The new control box is great for drivers or turret crew, and absolute junk for the guy in back of a CP.

 

[PuckChaser]

You can program without the laptop, but you have to listen to the Siri voice prompts which is annoying as hell. CI was too complicated for simple frontline use, but worked in a CP. We've knocked the pendulum all the way over to the over-simple for frontline, and next to useless in a CP. I am a big fan of making a profile and just zapping it from truck to truck, however. Your Coy/Platoon Sigs can easily fix finger errors by just resetting to a Coy/Platoon standard setup.

 

[McG]

Engineer regiments are established for neither troop nor squadron Sigs.  We need radios that can be operated by the average user.

 

[buzgo]

The ATCIS course will be changed to cover the new equipment. It won't have an immediate impact but anyone taking the new course will be current on the latest LCSS gear.

 

[MedCorps]

The ATCIS course will be changed to cover the new equipment. It won't have an immediate impact but anyone taking the new course will be current on the latest LCSS gear.

Do you know when the QS / TP for the new ATCIS-Basic / ATCIS-Intermediate / ATCIS-CP / qualifications will be coming out?

MC

 

[PuckChaser]

The ATCIS course will be changed to cover the new equipment. It won't have an immediate impact but anyone taking the new course will be current on the latest LCSS gear.

Are they going to increase the course length for ATCIS-Intermediate as the CNR(E) is mounted only, and the ATCIS-Basic deals with only dismounted comms? There's not a lot of whitespace in the schedule to cram in buttonology for a new radio system into Intermediate.

 

[nobody]

I think the biggest question is, is the CNR(E) capable of communicating with a 152/117G/MBITR/522? That was the rumour that floated around here, that to talk down to the section/platoon-level from a LAV, you'd need a legacy 5121 radio still installed.

Sorry for the late reply, The CNRE is as compatible as the CNRP essentially. No frequency hopping support.

 

[PuckChaser]

No worries, thanks for the clarification.

 

[buzgo]

Are they going to increase the course length for ATCIS-Intermediate as the CNR(E) is mounted only, and the ATCIS-Basic deals with only dismounted comms? There's not a lot of whitespace in the schedule to cram in buttonology for a new radio system into Intermediate.

I'm told its being worked on now, and it is modularized into different focused areas: dismounted, mounted etc. So there shouldn't be an increase unless the soldier takes all of the modules.