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Disappointing that the LPC hasn't turfed your fearless leader...
It is as expected. Party stalwarts were cast aside or bribed (Ralph Goodale) in order for JT to go on a rampage. What we see in the LPC is a collection of toadies whose only purpose is to glamorize the Dear Leader.Disappointing that the LPC hasn't turfed your fearless leader...
That’s what happens when the PM is able to amass power into the PMO over 50+ years with no push back from MP’s of all parties. They all did it for the team.
Part of the problem here is that leaders leverage their election by the party membership at large into power over the MP’s/MLA’s. Lots of PM’s, Premiers and party leaders in general have been able to stick around for longer than they should because they point to their election by the party membership and electorate as large as proof that they know what they’re doing and the MP’s are nervous nellies or not as brilliant as the leader. Not to mention the MP’s reliance on the leader to sign their nomination papers, plush appointments, etc.The Brit squabble was between the MPs and the Party Members. The Party Members by and large wanted Johnson and the Brexiteers. The majority of the MPs wanted Sunak and the City (the Financiers).
The same squabble happened in the Labour Party. The Party Members, and the Unions wanted Corbyn. The MPs generally wanted anybody but...
In Canada the Liberals are driven by the Party - The PMO is the directing organ of the Party and the Party's Directors. The PM and the MPs dance to their tune. The Party Members supply democratic cover.
The Conservatives are still responsive to the Party Members and the MPs occasionally act like Brit MPs. That scares everybody and keeps the Liberals in power.
The NDP, Bloc, Greens etc are stage dressing.
So, while sitting as a MP in Britain, the new PM declared himself a permanent resident of the US to reduce his tax burden, and his wife declared herself a non-resident of the UK for tax purposes as well.
A little too on brand for the Tories, really...
His wife, Akshata Murty, is the daughter of a billionaire; their garden parties are one of the hottest tickets in their home townwww.theguardian.com
So, I'm seeing attempts at an answer here and there, but does anyone have a good explanation on why our MPs are so weak compared to their American or British counterparts? Why is it that the PMO ''amassed power''? Why is it that the Party came to be so powerful?
I'm not all that familiar with the intricacies of our parliamentary system.
Feel free to PM if that's too much of a thread derail.
UK and AUS still demand that party leaders have the confidence of caucus. Canadian parties grant leadership based on broad based party plebiscites. Thus. even if every MP knows that Fred Flintstone is a fool, they lack mechanisms to force him out as party leader.
In the case of the party in power though, can't the MPs just remove the Prime Minister anyway? Responsible government and all that...Current party rules have removed power from caucus - in the interest of broad based party support, they have disempowered elected representatives.
They absolutely can, they have just forgotten how.In the case of the party in power though, can't the MPs just remove the Prime Minister anyway? Responsible government and all that...
Yeah. It gave us Danielle Smith...They absolutely can, they have just forgotten how.
The “democratization” of political parties in Canada, where party members instead of caucus elect the party leader has been a disaster.
Parties are ripe for hostile takeover by organized groups who can buy memberships, sweep in and elect somebody…interesting. Despite what Caucus says.
In my view, caucus should elect the leader- full stop. They pick a crap leader- they will wear it next election.
Agreed- the “DearLeader” signing nomination papers is crap. Trust your riding associations.Yeah. It gave us Danielle Smith...
I don't think Party leadership should pick who gets to run for them in ridings, though. Primaries are the way to go, imho.