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I think at the oligarchs hope at this time is not tripping out a window or acidential suicide with three bullets in the back of the head.

I did think the 5 bullets from four guns suicide must be some kind of record.

Speaking of tripping down the stairs....


It's in the Daily Mail. It must be true.
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I've fallen down a few sets of stairs over the years, but never so hard I soiled myself... That's quite a tumble.
 

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Interesting well researched possible root cause analysis of Russia's actions since 1991. BLUF: Sevastopol naval base.

 

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Interesting well researched possible root cause analysis of Russia's actions since 1991. BLUF: Sevastopol naval base.

Yup. Sevastopol is a strategic location for Russia. A lot will probably turn on Ukraine’s ability to threaten/deny its use over the long term. That’s arguably the one biggest tangible thing Russia could concretely and materially lose from this blunder. And it’s a big deal.
 

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Very interesting interview with a Brits who just came back from Ukraine as a member of the Ukraine Foreign Legion. He’s talking a bit about other nation ex military in the Legion and a retired Canadian Colonel, probably known by some people here.

 

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Very interesting article in Foreign Affairs - I'm not going to quote it at length, your library should subscribe, if it doesn't then tell your local mayor or base commander that you need a new, competent librarian.

Here is they key point: "... there will be a strong temptation to downgrade Russia as a threat. That would be a mistake, and not just because the war has yet to be won. In Ukraine and elsewhere, the more vulnerable Moscow perceives itself to be, the more it will try to offset those vulnerabilities by relying on unconventional tools—including nuclear weapons. In other words, Russian power and influence may be diminished, but that does not mean Russia will become dramatically less threatening. Instead, some aspects of the threat are likely to worsen. For the West, recognizing that reality means abandoning any near-term hopes of a chastened Russia and maintaining support for Russia’s targets. That effort should begin in Ukraine: the United States and its allies must provide sustained support to Kyiv to ensure that Russia suffers a defeat. But even if Putin loses, the problem that Russia poses will not be solved. In many ways, it will grow in intensity. So, too, should the response to it."

The reticule concluders by saying that "As the United States and its allies cope with the current Putin regime and think about what might eventually follow it, they would do well to remember the old adage that Russia is never as strong as it looks or as weak as it looks. The country often goes through cycles of resurgence, stagnation, and decline. Even with its capacity and global standing diminished by its war in Ukraine, Russia will continue to be driven by its resentments, a quest for a geopolitical space outside its borders, and a desire for status. Washington cannot afford to write Russia off in an effort to ease its own mind, nor should it imagine that Europe can manage the problem on its own. The threat may evolve, but it will persist."
 

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Yup. Sevastopol is a strategic location for Russia. A lot will probably turn on Ukraine’s ability to threaten/deny its use over the long term. That’s arguably the one biggest tangible thing Russia could concretely and materially lose from this blunder. And it’s a big deal.
As I've said before I think the risk of losing Sevastopol is the most likely thing that could lead to nuclear escalation by Russia.
 

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Then they still lose Sevastopol; they just lose a whole bunch more of their army too.
They don't care about their army. They can always breed and conscript more. But they DO care about Murmansk and Vladivostok
 

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Very interesting interview with a Brits who just came back from Ukraine as a member of the Ukraine Foreign Legion. He’s talking a bit about other nation ex military in the Legion and a retired Canadian Colonel, probably known by some people here.

Some interesting bits in the interview. In addition to the his general impressions about the people from various nations serving there (including Canadians), I found it notable how he commented on the general lack of basic field skills among many of the volunteers - even those with long military service.

He also noted the importance of indirect fire in the conflict....stated that likely only 1% of casualties were caused by small arms and most of the rest were from artillery guns, rockets, mortars, etc. He also noted that a significant number of the volunteers couldn't handle being on the receiving end of indirect fire.
 

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Some interesting bits in the interview. In addition to the his general impressions about the people from various nations serving there (including Canadians), I found it notable how he commented on the general lack of basic field skills among many of the volunteers - even those with long military service.
One could surmise that a lot of the GWOT ‘lessons’ didn’t translate to a conflict like Ukraine is facing.

He also noted the importance of indirect fire in the conflict....stated that likely only 1% of casualties were caused by small arms and most of the rest were from artillery guns, rockets, mortars, etc. He also noted that a significant number of the volunteers couldn't handle being on the receiving end of indirect fire.
Indirect Fire results can result in feelings of helplessness. Enemies that can be engaged give one a focus and an ability (or at least perception of an ability) to react and counter, but an unseen untouchable enemy is a threat that cannot be countered directly.

I sat in a briefing in Ft Benning by a UA officer that the vast majority of their small arms engagements were under 50m and anything past 200m was virtually unheard of outside of snipers. Anything past 200m was generally crew served systems and beyond.
 

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Some interesting bits in the interview. In addition to the his general impressions about the people from various nations serving there (including Canadians), I found it notable how he commented on the general lack of basic field skills among many of the volunteers - even those with long military service.

He also noted the importance of indirect fire in the conflict....stated that likely only 1% of casualties were caused by small arms and most of the rest were from artillery guns, rockets, mortars, etc. He also noted that a significant number of the volunteers couldn't handle being on the receiving end of indirect fire.
Mess tins and small stoves. How to light a fire. Seems like skills and equipment that PRes could easily practice.
 

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Some interesting bits in the interview. In addition to the his general impressions about the people from various nations serving there (including Canadians), I found it notable how he commented on the general lack of basic field skills among many of the volunteers - even those with long military service.

He also noted the importance of indirect fire in the conflict....stated that likely only 1% of casualties were caused by small arms and most of the rest were from artillery guns, rockets, mortars, etc. He also noted that a significant number of the volunteers couldn't handle being on the receiving end of indirect fire.

That’s what I remarked also. Good old “basic de base”.
 

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Mess tins and small stoves. How to light a fire. Seems like skills and equipment that PRes could easily practice.
One of his stories was kind of telling...he asked some of his platoon mates to gather some kindling for his stove and many of the city guys didn't know how to select the right kind of wood. It just wasn't part of their lived experiences. Maybe the CAF needs a bit more "Boy Scout" in its training to make up for what used to be assumed knowledge from most recruits?
 

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First hand account of Ukrainian response to the Russian assault on Hostomel by a Ukrainian Air Assault Trooper - after initial contact spent two weeks with his four man team spotting artillery. Retired into the local community for food and rest and returned to his OP.

Disregard the cartoons.

 

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One of his stories was kind of telling...he asked some of his platoon mates to gather some kindling for his stove and many of the city guys didn't know how to select the right kind of wood. It just wasn't part of their lived experiences. Maybe the CAF needs a bit more "Boy Scout" in its training to make up for what used to be assumed knowledge from most recruits?
When I was in, fires were a no-no for what we were told were tactical reasons. So not surprised that many troops wouldn’t have a clue about making fires unless they went camping on their own time.
 

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One of his stories was kind of telling...he asked some of his platoon mates to gather some kindling for his stove and many of the city guys didn't know how to select the right kind of wood. It just wasn't part of their lived experiences. Maybe the CAF needs a bit more "Boy Scout" in its training to make up for what used to be assumed knowledge from most recruits?
Keep in mind that is the same reason that Baden-Powell started the Boy Scouts in the first place, to many men were joining the army with no basic skills to stay alive in the field. What old is new.
 

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Until I saw that video I had never heard of the Ghillie Kettle. Seems like a handy piece of kit. Except for the Tactical Whistle.

 
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